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Post by Zifnab » Mon Jun 04, 2007 1:01 pm

>Το Apple iPhone στις 29 Ιουνίου....

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Post by P3 » Mon Jun 04, 2007 1:14 pm

... στην Αμερική! Επίσημη ανακοίνωση της κυκλοφορίας του στο WWDC 2007! Στο site της Apple έχουν βγει 3 διαφημίσεις!
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Post by xrokos » Mon Jun 04, 2007 8:31 pm

Horrific, deplorable violence is okay, as long as people don't say any naughty words!
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Post by P3 » Thu Jun 07, 2007 10:50 am

Είπα να ανοίξω ένα ξεχωριστό τόπικ για το κινητό-whatever της Αpple που εμένα προσωπικά μου έχει ανάψει φωτιές.

Παραθέτω δυο ψιλο-reviews που βρήκα. Η δεύτερη αναφέρι ότι μάλλον θα έχει και ενα super extra χαρακτηριστικό που δεν έχει ακόμα γνωστοποιηθεί:

http://arstechnica.com/journals/apple.a ... as-amazing
http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/apple/an-ins ... 266469.php
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Post by P3 » Tue Jun 12, 2007 9:30 am

Apple to launch iPhone at 6 p.m. on June 29
Closing out his keynote address at Apple's annual developers conference on Monday, chief executive Steve Jobs announced that iPhone will not go on sale until the early evening of June 29th.

Jobs told a crowd of developers in San Francisco that the inaugural Apple handset would be available beginning at 6:00 p.m. on Friday, June 29th, but did not specify whether that time was pacific time, eastern time, or local regional time.

Representatives for Apple did not respond to inquiries seeking clarification.

It was previously assumed that the device would be made available through Apple and AT&T retail stores in the early morning hours.

The later timeframe appears to have been selected as part of a broader bid by the Cupertino-based Apple to entice a media frenzy with large crowds, in which those with day jobs are not at a disadvantage when it comes to snagging an iPhone on day one.

Reports as to how many iPhones will actually be available on June 29th have ranged from less than 40 per AT&T store to 3 million in total. The device is due to go on sale at approximately 1800 AT&T locations in addition to over 170 Apple retail stores.
http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/07 ... ne_29.html
Apple even revealed some details about how third-party software makers can create applications for the phone.
http://www.macworld.com/weblogs/editors ... /index.php
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Post by PaP » Tue Jun 12, 2007 4:57 pm

χωρίς SDK !!!!!!!!!
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ένα απλό τηλέφωνο δεν είναι smarth phone εν τέλη
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Post by shodanjr_gr » Wed Jun 13, 2007 12:36 am

Μεγάλο κρίμα πάντως. Θα ήταν πραγματικά ΔΥΝΑΤΗ η συσκευή αν είχαμε Full SDK για αυτή. Ίσως θα μπορούσε να χτυπήσει και τα Symbian/Windows Mobile/Palm OS.

Και το κακό είναι ότι το SDK δεν θα κυκλοφορήσει όχι επειδή η ίδια η συσκευή δεν το επιτρέπει, αλλά επειδή προφανώς η AT&T δεν το θέλει...

Κρίμα και πάλι κρίμα...
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Post by P3 » Wed Jun 13, 2007 10:45 am

Q1) could you be more specific about the previous announcement that
the iPhone will be available in Europe in the 'fourth quarter'?

A: "We still don't know, the [release] period will be toward the end
of the year"

Q2) Have you chosen a carrier for Europe?

A: About the carrier, we still don't have any news to provide you. I
can say that for Italy, those of you very accustomed to pre-paid,
there will be issues with the iPhone.

Q3) then a more pointed question is asked: "...does this mean Apple
will pursue the same subscription only strategy in Europe & Italy (as
it is doing the US)?"

A: Yes, I can confirm that it has been decided that it will only be
offered by subscription"

iPhone to support YouTube

Meanwhile, there's sure to be some dashed hopes if iPhone arrives later this month without support for Adobe's Flash media format. Right now, Flash is looking more like a "maybe" than a guarantee.

Apple chief executive Steve Jobs told the New York Times that "you might see" Flash support come to iPhone, but YouTube support would be present regardless.

"Yeah, YouTube -- of course," he said. "But you don’t need to have Flash to show YouTube. All you need to do is deal with YouTube. And plus, we could get ‘em to up their video resolution at the same time, by using h.264 instead of the old codec."

Jobs also confirmed that iPhone won't support Java. "[It's] not worth building in," he said. "Nobody uses Java anymore. It’s this big heavyweight ball and chain."
http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/07 ... ening.html
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Well, in a report that I’m still having a hard time believing, TUAW says that they have official confirmation that there is no Flash support on the iPhone…yet. The announcement was made during the State of Media Address yesterday. “There will be no Flash support at the moment on the iPhone.”

Now, if that’s true…then why on Earth did Steve Jobs tell all of us that you can use Safari to develop your iPhone applications until you get an actual iPhone? He said they are the exact same browser. If you can run flash in one, but not the other, then they are not the exact same browser.

If we’re supposed to have THE REAL Internet on the phone, then why in the hell aren’t we getting ALL of the REAL Internet? I mean seriously, this is means, at this point, that Steve Jobs has stood up on that stage at Macworld and at WWDC and flat out lied to us.

It ain’t the REAL Internet if you can’t actually do all the stuff you can do on the REAL Internet. So calling it that is a lie.

Tell developers at the Keynote that they can use Safari to develop their applications because Safari on the Mac and Safari on the iPhone are the same thing…is a lie. No flash support…NOT THE SAME DAMN BROWSER.

Can you tell I’m getting a little frustrated?

http://www.applegazette.com/iphone/no-f ... -thing-up/
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Earlier today I posted some Thoughts on the Keynote, but I didn’t address the iPhone “Web 2.0″ development issue on purpose. I think it’s worth a post by itself. After watching the Keynote, then watching it again - this time looking at it a bit differently - I couldn’t help but notice the utter silence that washed over the crowd when it was announced that all 3rd Party iPhone applications would have to be developed through “Web 2.0 and Ajax”.

It wasn’t a stunned silence - the crowd wasn’t amazed with the idea. It was the sound of 5,000 developers being disappointed.

What I find phenomenally insulting is the constant mention of keeping the iPhone safe and secure. The way that it keeps being said makes it sound like developers have the plague or something. It seems , to me anyway, to be disrespectful to the developers that make the Mac so great.
http://www.applegazette.com/iphone/ipho ... a-cop-out/
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Post by PaP » Wed Jun 13, 2007 12:03 pm

Για την apple ο πελάτης είναι το δίκτυο κινητής και όχι ο χρήστης για αυτό το iPhone θέλει να ικανοποιεί την AT&T και την κάθε εταιρία...
Δε θα δούμε σύντομα ούε VoIP ούτε κανονικές εφαρμογές παρά μόνο AJAX που υποθέτουν μετάδοση δεδομένων και άρα βγάζουν λεφτά οι κινητές...
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Post by mikem4600 » Wed Jun 13, 2007 7:53 pm

Ρε παιδιά... Έχει "SDK" το iPhone.... Ο ίδιος ο Steve το έδειξε στο WWDC ότι θα τρέχει τώρα και στα Windows... ;)
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Post by shodanjr_gr » Thu Jun 14, 2007 12:39 am

Αν τρέχει ο Safari στο ipod όπως τρέχει και στα Windows.... την κάτσαμε την βάρκα :Ρ
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Post by P3 » Fri Jun 15, 2007 10:50 am

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Post by P3 » Tue Jun 19, 2007 9:02 am

Apple upgrades iPhone Battery & Screen - so you trolls can stick it.
Apple issued a press release today announcing significant upgrades to the iPhone.

The first, and most significant upgrade is in the form of battery life. iPhone now will feature up to 8 hours of talk time, 6 hours of Internet use, 7 hours of video playback or 24 hours of audio playback. In addition, iPhone will feature up to 250 hours—more than 10 days—of standby time. The original announcement at Macworld earlier this year announced only 5 hours of video battery life, and 16 hours of audio playback.

“With 8 hours of talk time, and 24 hours of audio playback, iPhone’s battery life is longer than any other ‘Smartphone’ and even longer than most MP3 players,” said Steve Jobs, Apple’s CEO. “We’ve also upgraded iPhone’s entire top surface from plastic to optical-quality glass for superior scratch resistance and clarity. There has never been a phone like iPhone, and we can’t wait to get this truly magical product into the hands of customers starting just 11 days from today.”

This should put a cork in at least SOME of the nay-sayers about the device that found the battery life unacceptable. Now, there will still be some that argue about the fact that you can’t remove the battery…and while I can understand that arguement, and I really have no rebuttal for it, I’ve never had a problem with my iPod battery not working, so I can’t really get upset about the lack of removable battery.

So, what do you think about these upgrades? Do they change your opinion on the device in anyway? Come on trolls…let’s hear some of your doomsaying….
http://www.applegazette.com/iphone/appl ... -stick-it/
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Post by Einherjar » Tue Jun 19, 2007 12:13 pm

Άραγε η κανούργια μπαταρία θα είναι σε μορφή τσάντας που θα την κρεμάς στον ώμο :lol:
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Post by redlabel » Tue Jun 19, 2007 2:33 pm

Αφού ακούω για πολλά κεράσια, θα κρατάω μικρό καλάθι...

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Post by P3 » Fri Jun 22, 2007 2:00 pm

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Post by mikem4600 » Fri Jun 22, 2007 11:17 pm

Apple's New iPhone @ the onion :-D :-D :-D
Apple is set to release the much-hyped iPhone Friday, June 29. Here are some of its most highly anticipated features:

* Nanotechnology enables it to reassemble itself when thrown against wall

* Exclusive link to Google Street View so you can watch yourself using your iPhone at all times

* Takes Polaroids

* When moved from hand to ear, makes Lightsaber sound effects

* Prominent Apple logo

* Reproduces through asexual budding

* Has way, way more PRAM than the last thingy

* Comes with an iPhone hat, so people know you own an iPhone during the brief periods you're not using it
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Post by P3 » Mon Jul 02, 2007 10:44 am

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Post by redlabel » Mon Jul 02, 2007 11:42 pm

Ας περιμένουμε να καθήσει η σκόνη...

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Post by P3 » Tue Jul 10, 2007 10:20 am

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Post by redlabel » Tue Jul 10, 2007 10:31 am

Καθώς κατακάθεται η σκόνη, σιγά-σιγά θ' αρχίσουν να σκάνε οι (δυσάρεστες) εκπλήξεις για τις μπαταρίες, τα hidden costs, τις ασυμβατότητες, τις επιλεκτικές συνεργασίες με τηλεπικοινωνιακούς πάροχους, την ασφυκτική πρόσδεση με την κατασκευάστρια κλπ.

Σύντομα θα φανεί ότι το "θαύμα" δεν ήταν και τόσο "θαύμα", θα φανεί η σκοπιμότητα των επιλογών των σχεδιαατών του, θα φανεί ότι η ανάγκη για άμεσες διορθώσεις του (δεν εννοώ για την εξέλιξη του μοντέλου) είναι σαφής, προφανής και αδήριτη.

H γνώμη μου: Μάλλον ενδιαφέρον (εμπορικά) concept, περιμένω νάχει συνέχεια. Έτερον ουδέν... Κατά τ' άλλα, σταθερά οι ίδιοι θύτες, πάντα τα ίδια θύματα.

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Post by P3 » Tue Jul 10, 2007 10:52 am

Όλα όσα αναφέρατε ήταν ήδη γνωστά από πριν την κυκλοφορία του! Ήταν γνωστό ότι η μπαταρία δεν βγαίνει, ήταν γνωστό ότι μπορούσες να το πάρεις μόνο με συμβόλαιο της AT&T, ήταν γνωστό ότι ώς προιόν της Apple θα είναι ιδιατέρως εύχρηστο από Macάδες και θα δυσκολεύει τους υπόλοιπους. Βέβαια η διαχείριση της συσκευής γίνεται μέσω iTunes που υπάρχει και Windows πολλά χρόνια τώρα, οπότε δεν καταλαβαίνω αυτά τα περί ασυμβατότητας!

Δεν μίλησε κανείς για θαυμα! Απλά η συσκευή αυτή προσπαθεί να ενσωματώσει δυνατότητες τηλεφώνου και ιντερνετ σε μία multimedia συσκευή που ομολογουμένως ήταν επανάσταση, το iPod! Και όλα αυτά με ένα νέο τύπο input device που ονομάσανε Multitouch screen. Δεν υποσχέθηκε περισσότερα από όσα προσφέρει!

Άλλωστε πόσο μεγάλο πρόβλημα είναι να μην μπορεί ο χρήστης να αλλάξει μόνος του τη μπαταρία "άμα χαλάσει" ?? (προσωπικά εμένα δεν έχει τύχει να αλλάξω μπαταρτία σε κινητό μου, και έχω αλλάξει αρκετά κινητά τα οποία είχα πάνω από 2 χρόνια το καθένα!) Και το κόστος της μπαταρίας είναι ανάλογο με το κόστος της συσκευής. Δεν θεωρώ την τιμή υπερβολική, καθώς δε θεωρώ και την διάρκεια 3 ημέρων που θέλουν για την αντικατάσταση τραγική! Έχετε δώσει ποτέ κινητό στη νόκια??? Ε σε καμιά βδομάδα μπορεί να σας πουν τι έχει? Και άλλωστε αυτή η τιμή είναι αν το κιν είναι εκτός εγγύησης. Το κιν έχει 1 χρόνο by default και δυνατότητα επέκτασης για άλλα 2 χρόνια με τα πακέτα apple care!

Όσο για τον πάροχο, αν και εμένα το έφερνε άλλη εταιρία από αυτή που χρησιμοποιώ με 60 ευρώ το μήνα πάγιο και unlimited internet data και 500 λεπτά δωρεάν ομιλία, με μεγάλη μου χαρά θα άλλαζα δίκτυο, τη στιγμή που τώρα πληρώνω τόσο μόνο για κλήσεις!

Επομένως οι εκπλήξεις δεν είναι και τόσο εκπλήξεις καθώς και οι δυσάρεστες δεν είναι και τόσο δυσάρεστες!
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